IIRC their romance natural because Tennant and Myles were actually a couple at the time. They didn't have love - they literally barely knew each other. She was the epitome of confidence and grace as she awaited the Doctor. The Doctor : No, no, no way, Reinette Poisson? Unpopular opinion: Reinette was the Doctor's best love interest. When he steps through one of these portals, shaped like a fireplace, the Doctor discovers the even greater mystery of actual, romantic love. 1 year ago. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. This is for Madame de Pompadour (Sophia Myles). Rose looks into his eyes, and sees more of him there than Reinette did in his mind; she sees age and death and sorrow and pity and longing and tiredness and love- love? The Doctor: I can’t. There's also a reason no companion has lasted as long as Jamie has. During his research, Davies became fascinated by Madame de Pompadour and wanted to include her in a story which also involved The Turk—a clockwork man who played chess around the same period and which was later revealed to be a hoax. In 2004, Russell T Davies—Doctor Who's executive producer—was responsible for Casanova, a serial set in the 18th century. DOCTOR: How did you do that? I like to think that a future incarnation goes back and picks her up in one instant of her life, they go on adventures before he drops her back to the moment he left her. Unpopular opinion: Reinette was the Doctor's best love interest. She had tremendous insight to his personality and understood his loneliness. REINETTE: Doctor. And I look forward to meeting him. Reinette and the Doctor, The Girl In The Fireplace. The Doctor: How did you do that? Reinette, Madame De Pompadour, The Girl In The Fireplace. You've never been alone in your life. For their first trip with Mickey, the Tenth Doctor and Rose end up on a spaceship in the future that contains several portals to pre-Revolutionary France. This is my lover, the King of France." This is dedicated to my favourite couple on Doctor Who, The Doctor (David Tennant) and Reinette (Sophia Myles.) He wanted to show her all his toys and show her all the sights. She's been hooked ever since. REINETTE: Such a lonely little boy. Now in terms of chemistry, I suppose they are pretty good. Dance with me. A precursor to the Amy Pond story about a girl who knew the Doctor as a child, and then met him as an adult, but the story of Reinette does not end well for the Doctor. The Doctor found himself in the Versailles gardens. Imagine if 5 and Romana were around at the same time lol. Even with the Doctor never stating that he loves Reinette, his reaction to … I don't think you are wrong. asked a man. Jeanne Antoinette Poisson, Marquise de Pompadour (/ ˈ p ɒ m p ə d ʊər /, French: [pɔ̃paduʁ] (); 29 December 1721 – 15 April 1764), commonly known as Madame de Pompadour, was a member of the French court.She was the official chief … Absolute proof, though they try to hide it in the end there. I will no longer stand by as this sub continues to ignore Cameca like this! Random Reinette Factoid: According to the 1934 U.S. Social Security Administration data, the first name Reinette is not a popular baby girl's name in Maine. Not as sad as The Doctor's Wife, but still sad. This was honestly such an amazing episode but the ending was so sad but yeah though it’s not an unpopular opinion the chemistry was great. I think especially so because they more or less felt instantly "safe" with the other, which was not likely the case for them with anyone else. After the worldwide fan re-watch of Doctor Who’s The Girl in the Fireplace, Sophia Myles’ Madame de Pompadour has returned in a sequel special story. Doctor who? Posted by 3 months ago. The Doctor promised Reinette she would travel with him but he returned to her too late and she had already died by then, waiting for him in vain. But it's Reinette, Madame de Pompadour, the eponymous Girl in the Fireplace, that makes this such a special episode. The Doctor: This is the night you dance with the King. There's more believability to them than in any other romance in Who. They were engaged for Rassilon's sake and she's never even in the running! And we saw at the last episode Doctor kiss her (never did before with any of women) and called her his wife. “No hanky-panky in the TARDIS.” That phrase is the most famous articulation of the notion that the Doctor should not engage in human follies like love, romance, or sex, particularly with respect to his companions. So lonely. And the doctor always is there. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. God, the ending of this episode is quite sad. A peacock calls and Reinette turns around. I recognized him as the King of France. It's more than just a secret, isn't it? I don't think they loved each other in the way you think they did, it was more of an admiration and respect for each other. REINETTE: That there comes a time, Time Lord, when every lonely little boy must learn how to dance. No one else seemed to simply 'get' the Doctor like she did. They had a bit more time together. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. REINETTE: A door, once opened, can be stepped through in either direction. Yeah I agree- the ending with 10th Doctor reading Reinette's letter was so moving. Preternaturally pretty. I would rather she had been the one to appear in the Day of the Doctor episode. In the original story, The Doctor (David Tennant) fell in love with Madame de Pompadour as he travelled to different points in her time stream to protect her from deadly clockwork droids. obligatory edit: silver, really? Weird things about the name Reinette: The name spelled backwards is Ettenier. I fully understood why they fell in love and I wish they'd had more time. You love the King, of course? I´ve made three videos for three Doctor's one-episode companions. There had been hints of it in his relationship with Rose, but the love isn’t as open as it is with Reinette. Highly controversial (apparently) but Clara and Twelve have off the charts chemistry in a way that never quite landed for me with Matt Smith. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 2. I strongly believe this answer to be no. Star-Crossed Lovers: Selene and Michael (an augmented vampire and a vampire/werewolf hybrid) and the Doctor and Erika/Reinette (an alien and an augmented vampire) Love happens, though, and the second series of “Doctor Who” is at its heart a love story, telling not just the story of how Rose and the Doctor fall in love, but various other love stories that intersect with and illuminate the central relationship. Can I say that I think Clara and Eleven would have been great if Smith had stayed for Season 8? Here, the Doctor falls in love and - sorry prudish fans - … While I like that episode, I think Romana was the best love interest for The Doctor. ;), She gave him cocoa though. Still, I agree with you that Ten and Reinette did have chemistry and their whole thing was very cute. Reinette: Then first I shall make him jealous. Lonely then and lonelier now. And the Doctor thought Reinette was brilliant and Rose could not deny how poised she acted no matter the situation. I was'nt sure before last episode if he is love or like as the other companions. When did you start calling me Doctor? Romana is the only companion I think the Doctor should've had even a hint of romance for. The most popular love interest (in my opinion) for Ten is Rose, of course, but I had a hard time with it, considering she was technically still with Mickey for a while. "Doctor, I love you too." Dang, did he meet all his ladies on the DW set?? REINETTE: Oh, Doctor. Well, right after actually, but you could see the spark of interest was there. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Much like Nancy in “The Empty Child” and “The Doctor Dances” was a symbol of England before winning WWII, Reinette in “The Girl In the Fireplace” symbolizes a nation. The Girl in the Fireplace was a fantastic episode. "Who?" How can you bear it? Some feel that Reinette was one of the Doctor’s ultimate love-interests but I protest. "What the hell is going on?" Rose Tyler showed fans and The Doctor himself that he can fall in love, but it also showed us how doing so is a bad idea for humans to get into. For one, she's one of the only people we've seen that's on the same level of intelligence as he is. (The Doctor is watching from behind a stone urn on a wall. Doc loved his chocolate!;). That irked me a bit. Discussion. DOCTOR: What do you mean, alone? The Doctor founds Reinette's beauty lay more in her intelligence, level headedness, and openness to diversity. And that night while Reinette danced with the king the Doctor danced with Rose Tyler. She understood him almost immediately; she was on his wavelength. But River had her own adventures and invite doctor to come with her. 181 comments. Reinette was so interesting character. But I'm sure now. 2 Got A Fitting Ending: The Ninth Doctor The Ninth Doctor had a strong sense of humor but also a hint of darkness hidden inside. Reinette has risen again! said Reinette. The Doctor merely turns and stares at her. The fact that they were never even remotely "together" just makes it more so. Welp, guess it's time I cry myself to sleep once again after rewatchibg 'Girl in the fireplace'.... Well, I don't know about you but it's time for me to rewatch the Russell T. Davies era even though I only rewatched it less than 6 months ago. said the Doctor and he removed the mask of the main clockwork. Reinette captured my heart immediately. In any other situation Rose would have fawned over her as much as the Doctor did, Reinette was nothing short of amazing. That's because David Tennant and Sophia Myles were dating at the time. So very, very alone. Doctor couldn't direct her. Reinette: A door once opened may be stepped through in either direction. :-). Later Madame D'Etoiles, later still mistress of Louis the XV, uncrowned Queen of French? Reinette: Dance with me. He saw Reinette walking and talking with a dark skinned woman. Humans should be comparable to goldfish next to a Time Lord, it's cradle snatching to the extreme. I find the whole love story to not be particuarly well developed (although in its defense, it was only one episode), nor was it believable. Thanks kind stranger. she was on his wavelength. He knew of her history but he definitely had feelings for her in the little time he spent with her. The Doctor: I can’t. "Yeah? John Smith’s speech before he opens the watch made me bawl like a toddler. "Oh. Their connection was quick, yet their romance was natural. Romana is the only companion I think the Doctor should've had even a hint of romance for. Reddit's Doctor Who Fan Community - News, Discussion, Artwork and Fan Creations! Now it was the Doctor's turn not to speak as he drew Rose closer to him and did something he had wanted to do for a long time, he kissed her. Despite how limited their time together ultimately was, I felt not only was their chemistry the strongest, but their love was the most powerful. Later Madame D'Etoiles, later still mistress of Louis the XV, uncrowned Queen of French? My lonely Doctor. Clara/12 are the only Doctor/companion “couple” I’ve had strong feelings about, Best love interest for the Doctor was that lady from The Aztecs that he accidentally married. There are only a few friendships on TV so appealing, especially since these two had a friendship and an “unromantic” romance ⁠— something only they could pull off. Would have been a real treat if he married her. DOCTOR: What did you see? Oh Doctor. REINETTE: That there comes a time, Time Lord, when every lonely little boy must learn how to dance. What a gentleman. Please check out my videos and subscribe to … That's my first ever medal thingy and I have no idea what it does. These are qualities which intrigue and attract him. Credit to the actress Sophia Myles too. Reinette felt like someone was watching her. In early 2005, Steven Moffat—who had written "The Empty Child" and "The Doctor Dances" for the series… Reinette was the childhood nickname of Madame La Pompadour, perhaps a cute short form for Regina or Reina but hardly worthy of the full name on the birth certificate today. I love Moffat to bits, but he definitely has a handful of favourite time-travel relationship themes that we see several times over. Close. No, silly, the Doctor's best love interest was Jamie. The relationship between the French madam and the alien traveller only had forty-five minutes to develop and I personally think that Madame de Pompadour and the Doctor didn’t get a good enough chance to bond. She asks softly. Soon enough, it became clear that Clara and the Doctor were most definitely in love with each other, despite not becoming lovers. This is the episode I showed my girlfriend to get her into Doctor Who. 100% agree. I think Joan Redfern might be a runner up, though. Reason tells me that you and I are unlikely to meet again, but I think I shall not listen to reason. Well I'm the Lord of Time and I came to fix the clock." Reinette Origin and Meaning The name Reinette is a girl's name of French origin meaning "little queen". That last bit foreshadowed River pretty neatly come to think of it. I’m on 11 right now, so I’m excited to see how big a role romance plays during his time. REINETTE: He is the King, and I love him with all my heart. For another, Tom Baker and Lalla Ward did get married while making the show, so there's a natural chemistry between the two. When he writes his biography, it should definitely be called The Long Way Round. I always enjoy seeing her onscreen. Read more about this topic on the Tardis Data Core. No one else seemed to simply 'get' the Doctor like she did. The classic series tended to shy away from Time Lordly love, although the first Doctor did coo over cocoa with Cameca in The Aztecs. She was visited throughout her life by the Tenth Doctor. Imagine that, only 5 babies in Maine have the same name in 1934. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Discussion. Concerns about the appearance of such impropriety go right back to the very beginning of Doctor Who, when “An Unearthly Child” writer Anthony Coburn insisted that the Doctor … 2.7k. She was a member of the French court and the official chief mistress of King Louis XV of France. I think she was the closest romantic interest in a tragic way as she was not a companion. Lexi's POV The Doctor dismounted from the horse and helped me down. She peeked behind her but The Doctor ducked behind a stone urn. Reinette was the nickname of Jeanne-Antoinette Poisson, also known as Madame de Pompadour. 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